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052: How John Lee Dumas Built Entrepreneur On Fire Into A Legendary Podcast

July 25, 2017

Why is it so necessary to add value on a consistent basis? What lessons can we learn about freedom and mastery? What is the right way to look at the path to success? On this episode, we are joined by the legendary podcaster John Lee Dumas, who imparts his wisdom on building a life of your dreams.

Try not to become a person of success but rather a person of value. -John Lee Dumas

3 Things We Learned From John Lee Dumas

Every Master Was A Disaster

We don’t become legends overnight, in fact we often have to face being losers before we can graduate to our greatest successes. John now has over 1500 interviews with some of the greatest entrepreneurs in the world, but he had to start somewhere. Where we start isn’t usually as glamorous as where we end up. Even the greats had to learn.

Be a Person of Value

Success and value aren’t a package deal, and the most life changing thing that can happen is realizing the power of being a person who leads with value. If you can empower someone else, or bring some light into their world, that is way more important than having all the trappings of success. If you’re lucky, being valuable will bring success.

Movements Start with One

Every person we look up to, from speakers to popular podcasters didn’t start with hundreds of thousands of followers. They started with one person who believed in them so much they spread the word. Don’t let the lack of a tribe stop you from starting something, because if you add value to one person, more will come.


  1. You don’t have to see the full staircase to take that next step.
  2. Don’t confuse money with freedom, one doesn’t guarantee the other.
  3. Movements start with one person.

On this episode we discussed;

  • The power of adding value on a consistent basis
  • Why you need to be a person of value
  • Creating your dream life one step at a time
  • Building an audience one person at a time
  • The power of taking that first step

A lot of people can’t start something until they’ve seen the finish line, and that freezes them in place, stopping them from even taking that first step. Remember, when you take that first step the fog will lift slowly and you’ll find yourself at the top!

Guest Bio

John Lee Dumas is the founder & host of the top ranked Podcast Entrepreneurs On FIRE, where he interviews today’s most inspiring Entrepreneurs 7 days a week! Go to EOFire.com for more information.